Hovind Figures Out the Whole “Defense” Thing
Kent and Jo Hovind were back in the news last week:
Kent and Jo Hovind were back in federal court this week seeking acquittal on charges of bank structuring.
The couple’s attorneys argued there was no intent to defraud the government by making large deposits just under the $10,000 threshold that triggers bank-reporting requirements.
I can’t help wondering why they didn’t make these arguments the last time they were in court. It could have saved everyone a world of bother.
Frankly, Hovind comes across as a child who’s finally learned out that mommy really means it this time.
The article also notes:
He remains in the Escambia County Jail awaiting transfer.
Hurm. I’d’ve thought the state of Florida would’ve managed to transfer him by now.
A date for Jo Hovind’s sentencing has been delayed pending a ruling by U.S. District Judge Casey Rodgers on the request for acquittal on the bank structuring conviction.
No date has been set for her ruling.
This was originally set for this coming Thursday, but I guess it’s been postponed.
I’m still waiting to see what happens to Jo. I think she might be more innocent than was previously thought. Seems to me that Kent was in charge and like a biblical wife, she did what he told her to do. Kent, in my opinion, deserves more than what he got but she deserves much less than him. I don’t see her as completely innocent, just more so than him.
Well, she’s already been found guilty on, IIRC, 44 counts, so it’s all over bar the sentencing and inevitable appeals.
OTOH, Kent didn’t present a defense, and perhaps neither did she. If she had, maybe things would’ve gone differently.
My heart is so heavy for Jo & Kent. Jo and I were in college together and worked together as secretaries while in college. I was with her when she experienced a miscarrage and I saw her thru some tough early times in marriage. She & I were married 1 day apart in 1973. Our husbands were best friends while at college. Jo & I lost track of each other but I always knew her heart for her family and her care for people. She is honest & forthright. She has always honored her
vows in marriage and always was a virtous woman.
She followed her husband’s will in everything.
Please don’t judge her so harshly. She has prooven to be a steadfast friend. I pray the Judge will be lienient and not place a harsh sentence on her.
So you’re saying the judge should go easy on her because she was only following orders?
Can anyone tell me how we have come to the point where paying one’s bills in any specific amount or in any manner (cash, money orders, etc.) can be considered a crime?
This idea of “structuring” has behind it the tyrannical idea that every move we make that involves money is really the goverment’s business, and to do so in a manner that does not create or facilitate the reporting “requirement” is criminal. How absolutely absurd and repugnant to the freedoms that Americans are supposed to have.
As an attorney I get to sit in courtrooms and often see violent criminals, including rapists and child molesters, set free or given light sentences, but look at the kind of sentence Dr. Hovind gets! It makes you think of one thing………………Represssion. The iron fist and hob nail boot of tyranny protecting its turf. All this supports, rather than detracts from the argument that there are dirty secrets in the tax laws that we plebians are not supposed to find out about and, if we do, should dare not act on them.
You do realize that he is a Christian. I am not saying that he is guiltless or that he shouldn’t serve time. If you operate a business, you ought to pay taxes. The Bible clearly teaches through the Son of God, Jesus Christ, that we are to “render unto Caesar what belong to Caesar and unto God what belongs to God”. That means that we must find out the law and be above reproach in our business dealings. I am sure that a good tax attorney could have helped to explain this system to him. However, all that said, what if this was Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson? How about almost every federally elected politician? Don’t you think that if they had done some dirty little tax evasion that they would have been given a “slap on the wrist” as opposed to a 10 year prison term? And then to add insult to injury call him a “fly risk” and dangerous. This is reprehensible. The Religion of evolution is a powerful and evil force that will not allow itself to contradicted, even by very intelligent scientists. We live in a day and age where “tolerance” is screamed at every corner, but as soon as you are a serious disciple of Jesus Christ, Watch out!!! God Bless the Hovinds through this struggle. I pray that they be protected and loved and that sissy, weak-minded Christians would shower them with personal support and gratitude. They truly have been an inspiration to many folks. Dr. Hovind is the only one I’ve ever seen give a coherent and thought provoking argument to the evolution theory.
May God Bless and keep them in the palm of His almighty hand!
Jesse H.:
I suspect that Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson would have avoided pissing off the judge by pleading “subornaiton of false muster”. I’m also pretty sure that they would’ve mounted a legal defense during the initial trial, and wouldn’t have waited for the appeal to do so. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure they don’t have a history of filing frivolous lawsuits against the government. The rest, I suppose, depends on whether they were stupid enough to make phone calls from jail telling people to hide evidence.
Finally, I don’t know how much leeway the judge had in imposing the sentence. Her hands may have been tied by conservative-backed minimum-sentencing laws enacted in the name of “getting tough on crime”.
Jessie H:
So? What difference does him claiming to be Christian make?
What if you try sticking to the topic at hand and not delve into hypotheticals?
And now they have a golden opportunity to be an inspiration to groups of people desperately in need of it. What’s your beef?
My Problem is not that he was punished for committing a crime. My problem is that if he were not a conservative Christian with an anti-evolution stand, he would have gotten away with it, or at least been given a lighter sentence. I am not advocating crime, but we have numerous politicians and crooks getting away with great financial crimes (The “White-Water” Scandal ring any bells) with seemingly no repercussion this side of eternity. Crime must be punished harshly and fairly and it shouldn’t matter what affiliation one has. To answer the Sharpton, Jackson issue; they both have used their “religious” platforms as political ones with out a word said. Clinton committed adultery in the White House and no one says “boo” and all of a sudden using a call service is a crime?!? I just don’t get the double standard.
When I said “what if”, I was not being hypothetical; I was merely trying to stay focused on the Hovind’s and not other criminal activity.
To clarify, I pray for Dr. and Mrs. Hovind during this personal crisis. That does not change the fact that they made a mistake and committed a crime, and they should be punished, but so should every other criminal.
Jesse H.
Fez looks at the above.
Fez looks at the current White House Administration.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA! Ok, that’s a good one. For a second I thought you were serious.
You’re right there! Six years of investigation, $60M USD spent, an exceedingly acrimonious Congress sitting for much of it, and the only direct charge against any of the principals in the investigation was lying under oath about a blow-job ($8M USD spent for that one). Outrage I tell you, outrage!
You really don’t know anything beyond what’s published in the echo chamber memos, do you?
We’re all sitting on the edge of our seats waiting for ANY true science from these misguided Christians. We know you can say the words, but can you actually produce any reproducible experiements to prove it……….crickets.
Science isn’t sophistry.
Enjoy.
Tim Fuller:
You may be on to something here: perhaps the Hovindoids above are unclear on the difference between science and theology.
Hey guys you are looking at things the wrong way. Kent Hovind knows nothing about science. I am an engineering student, I did much higher physics than him and I for one knows how badly creationists do their physics (and basic math, for that matter)
This is what I think. Kent Hovind appeals to the masses (of idiots), proposes his lame brained physics and fairytales and SELLS DVD’S. While we sit here and argue his lunacy his bank account is growing bigger. I think Kent Hovind is a genius. I would gladly talk a pot of shit to thousands of people if it would get me to be rich!!
ou rooie:
But look at people like Pat Robertson, Benny Hinn, Peter Popoff, Jerry Falwell, D. James Kennedy, and so on. They too peddle(d) religious bullshit to the masses. But not only are/were they richer than Hovind, few if any of them landed in prison. So even as a huckster, Hovind hasn’t done well.
I am not quite the man Hovind is, I still have some things to work out. So this is a fare warning to anyone that that harms Kent or his family in any way, including the judge and jury. I think he should be released from jail and put in leadership. The land of the free? it wont be long before this government is overthrown, they better get their act together. They are hired by the people for the people. Look what our leaders are doing all over the place; they should be the ones in prison. All he tried to do is help people. If this gets to the judge, I hope he rethinks what is driving him and lets Kent out. If the Hovind family needs any protection let them know there are secret agencies that will protect them and Kent. This life is about peace and love, and it is true some people have to die for that peace. The military can protect us if governed right, and cared about like Hovind would. Start a freehovand website; we need to fight back, what would Jesus do? Over turn tables. Give to Cesar what is his, give all of the money back, we don’t need it. We can start sharing and working together and make this country what it can be. Majority vote is the future. It needs to start while the society still has some morals.
“Dumb on purpose…”
“Willingly ignorant”
And the prophets predicted this; and the Bible says it will come to pass.
Looks like Hovind is correct.
CSE vs. Evo-polution:
Shouldn’t you get your mommy’s permission before using the computer?
free: Kent Hovind tried to help no one but himself. He is in jail for FRAUD. Now the Bible clearly propagates paying taxes — the law as well. Hovind broke the law so he must sit. Whether or not I believe in his “science” (If you can call it that) is of no matter. I pay my taxes, why shouldn’t he?
arensb: You are rude! You know hes going to call his mommy now.. LOL